Hi All, ive been on this forum a while, just dont talk, try to consume all the information going on, prefer to know what im going to do before setting off, guess ill have to set up some blog some time, thought i could do something where all the users are learning all at once, so its like marketing for newbies from newbies. used to work for a finance company when i was first starting out in web design and marketing and i didnt really know the first thing about marketing or web design but still got the job, and i spent a LONG time submitting the site to around 20,000 sites manually without roboform , and also i didnt use keywords in the link or anything so shows how little i knew, always like to learn, oh by the way if its not obvious from the title im in the united kingdom , oh while im here, the software 'tube increaser' i have been using it and it seems to cut off after a while - i get my proxies from the proxy finder software i found on here, my settings are - delay 0 threads 25 timeout 20 and hits 20000 , thanks for any help on that, hope to chat to you when ive brought all ive seen into action, have a nice day all neil.