My Best Advice For Beginner/Intermediate SEO's

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1. Stop making the biggest mistake when learning SEO

I see questions being asked all the time about SEO techniques, rankings ect. And I notice a very very common theme.

"xxxx said this works and he does it this way"

First of all, the biggest mistake beginners make, is accepting what they say as the truth.

Your mindset in SEO needs to be, don't believe anyone. Literally anyone. If you refuse this advice, then believe me, you are going to waste months even years following their concepts and realising they are burned out, or they don't have much effect.

Let's take one as an example. Brian, fricking, Dean. Is he good at SEO and getting traffic? Yes. He is brilliant. Does he share how he does it? Yes, when his methods are burned out. An example? On one video he said "Hey come use this software that shows brand new trends, it works because no one uses it"

*Proceeds to release the video for free on YouTube to 100,000s of SEO's.*

You see? He literally stated the method works because it's unknown, and then completely burned it by telling everyone. Yet so many people comment on it saying "Thankyou so much Brian dean, I love your tips so much"

2. Read Case Studies from Organisations like Ahrefs and Moz

So carrying on from the previous statement, stop listening to others, and read case studies! You need to act on data in SEO, not whatever Jim bob junior tells you on YouTube.

SEO is literally all about data, the only reason people succeed in SEO, is because they analyse data.

But don't headbutt the table, you don't need to collect the data. Organisations like Ahrefs and Moz are doing this for you. They are literally doing all the heavy lifting, and spoon feeding you a conclusion of the data. And they have more power than any SEO guru out there... they have literally 10,000s of servers collecting data.

So why would you trust some guy on YouTube with the power of one computer, when you can go directly to an organisation that benefit from you learning SEO and have 10,000s of servers willing to analyse that data for you?


3. Find AMA threads on BHW

Find people doing AMA threads for SEO related content. Most likely these are people who have had success, and these are people who are confident answering all and any questions because they have so much knowledge on a specific technique or strategy. And what's better is, 100s of questions have already been asked and answered.

You can actually get some amazing value from these. Like literally spot on answers.

But please, remember. Do not believe everything that is said, use all these methods combined, and when you think "Hang on, I've learnt a lot about this and this doesn't seem right for x reason" Go and post the question on the AMA thread on why you think that's wrong. And see if the OP can change your mind with their experience.


4. Test, Test, Test

So, you've found OP on an AMA thread has said "this works" but you can't find any data or case studies to back it up.

Your sat there thinking "This makes no sense, why would it work?"

Well guess what, sometimes it doesn't make sense, and it does work. That is google algorithm for you. It has flaws.

So get off your ass, and test that exact technique/strategy, see what it does for your rankings.

After you implemented it, did your rankings go down after a few weeks? If so, then remove that implementation and your rankings will go back up. But remember, give it at least 4 weeks before removing, and try not to make changes in the meantime that could break your testing.

You could make test websites, and if you want to know how, Kyle roof has some good content on YouTube about how to do that.

But personally for me, I like my main websites to test on, so when I find something new to test, I implement it, and work on my other websites whilst that test is ongoing. This stops me from making multiple changes that could interfere with the test.

Why do I do this on my main websites? Because I want to know what works for my websites. Websites are made up of multiple SEO tactics, and I believe I get a lot more insights testing on websites I've built with my tactics, because then I know exactly what other tactics synchronise well with my current tactics.

Just like a human, every website is different, and the google algorithm is dynamic. Some people disagree with this method of doing it, but I find it the best for me personally. As long as you have some logic behind your madness, try it, test it.





Hope this helps in some way or another.
 
An eyeopener to most of them in the discussion forum.
Awesome work @Dark Sky - will be helpful to those who is searching for bright path in SEO.
Goodluck
 
An eyeopener to most of them in the discussion forum.
Awesome work @Dark Sky - will be helpful to those who is searching for bright path in SEO.
Goodluck

Hope so mate, see too many people asking questions like "How to rank"

Either they want to be spoon fed, or they honestly don't know how to learn SEO in a structured way.

Hopefully this well help those who struggle to learn in a structured way.
 
Glad you mentioned 'trust no one mindset'
It's applicable to IM as a whole. If you can convince people to believe something has been patched. Consequently, saturation can be capped to a great extent. Gurus do the opposite, as you mentioned.
 
That question really bugs me how to rank, what is new, because the same strategy content and backlinks work and work all you need to is twist the content and backlinks guest posts, pbns and so on. Overall I liked how you kept it short and easy to read
 
Glad you mentioned 'trust no one mindset'
It's applicable to IM as a whole. If you can convince people to believe something has been patched. Consequently, saturation can be capped to a great extent. Gurus do the opposite, as you mentioned.

Exactly... what people ignore, and they literally know it's true but they ignore it, is youtubers are there for only one thing. To get views and to get money. SEO youtubers are no different, even big names like kyle roof and matt diggity are on youtube for one reason and one reason only, to advertise their agency.

I even test Kyle roofs methods, even though I know he pumps out honest, decent content that he's most likely tested himself due to having an agency. I still want to test this myself, because money is an evil thing, and you do not know who is subject to being manipulated by the dreams of wads of cash. Besides, what works for him might not work for me. So it would be crazy not to test it.

Only data will convince me something works. I assume everyone is either lying or wrong until I see my rankings go up.

That question really bugs me how to rank, what is new, because the same strategy content and backlinks work and work all you need to is twist the content and backlinks guest posts, pbns and so on. Overall I liked how you kept it short and easy to read

Whenever I hear that question, especially in my inbox, all I hear is "spoon feed me pls sir, I don't want to read, I just want wads of cash"

I'll admit there's probably a small percentage of people who do actually read a lot, but just cannot understand the concepts, and their "how to rank" questions are a last attempt out of desperocity. This is the same in all fields. It's like IT, some people just do not understand it no matter what. And that's ok, SEO will attract people who don't enjoy it, they simply want the money.

I love you @Dark Sky !!! When this becomes a sticky - take me to the top <3

I yearn for the day I earn myself a sticky, I feel it's a number of years away though :D Love you too brother ;D

Well, a good quickstart guide :)

Thanks mate :)

Excellent post and completely agree about Dean. Hate those gurus :D

Thanks Mate, yeah Brian Dean and Neil Patel are the worst IMO, My friend currently keeps quoting them, and I keep saying "Stop it, watch Kyle roof" and then he literally came back to me and said "OMG kyle roof on Brian Dean video, Brian Dean must be better than him"

I was like "omg... no.. pls no.... I'm fricking done trying to help you, it's been 2 years man..."
 
"xxxx said this works and he does it this way"

First of all, the biggest mistake beginners make, is accepting what they say as the truth.

I think many of us have fallen for this... Great info
 
Those points are common thinking and yet many ppl fail to see them, thanks for pointing them out.
 
Excellent points. I would add one more point to this list.

Having a lot of patience. Every one wants immediate results which will not happen. People need to understand that.
 
Awesome and excellent points to share here.. Thank you...
 
This!

People should also consider the fact that the algorithm is NOT completely the same for all countries, so do your own research before anything.

Exactly,

Those points are common thinking and yet many ppl fail to see them, thanks for pointing them out.

No problem, it's easier for some than others, structured learning around an unstructured field is hard for some. This should give them a valid structure to take them where they need to be.

Excellent points. I would add one more point to this list.

Having a lot of patience. Every one wants immediate results which will not happen. People need to understand that.

Thanks mate, and agreed, they will learn this if they read the case studies on how long it takes to rank though ;) I'd say this is an important case study to read, as it makes testing as efficient as possible in terms of time frames.

Awesome and excellent points to share here.. Thank you...

No problem my friend, hope it helped. :)
 
Reading Case studys has been really helpful for me too.
Good share mate
 
1. Stop making the biggest mistake when learning SEO

I see questions being asked all the time about SEO techniques, rankings ect. And I notice a very very common theme.

"xxxx said this works and he does it this way"

First of all, the biggest mistake beginners make, is accepting what they say as the truth.

Your mindset in SEO needs to be, don't believe anyone. Literally anyone. If you refuse this advice, then believe me, you are going to waste months even years following their concepts and realising they are burned out, or they don't have much effect.

Let's take one as an example. Brian, fricking, Dean. Is he good at SEO and getting traffic? Yes. He is brilliant. Does he share how he does it? Yes, when his methods are burned out. An example? On one video he said "Hey come use this software that shows brand new trends, it works because no one uses it"

*Proceeds to release the video for free on YouTube to 100,000s of SEO's.*

You see? He literally stated the method works because it's unknown, and then completely burned it by telling everyone. Yet so many people comment on it saying "Thankyou so much Brian dean, I love your tips so much"

2. Read Case Studies from Organisations like Ahrefs and Moz

So carrying on from the previous statement, stop listening to others, and read case studies! You need to act on data in SEO, not whatever Jim bob junior tells you on YouTube.

SEO is literally all about data, the only reason people succeed in SEO, is because they analyse data.

But don't headbutt the table, you don't need to collect the data. Organisations like Ahrefs and Moz are doing this for you. They are literally doing all the heavy lifting, and spoon feeding you a conclusion of the data. And they have more power than any SEO guru out there... they have literally 10,000s of servers collecting data.

So why would you trust some guy on YouTube with the power of one computer, when you can go directly to an organisation that benefit from you learning SEO and have 10,000s of servers willing to analyse that data for you?


3. Find AMA threads on BHW

Find people doing AMA threads for SEO related content. Most likely these are people who have had success, and these are people who are confident answering all and any questions because they have so much knowledge on a specific technique or strategy. And what's better is, 100s of questions have already been asked and answered.

You can actually get some amazing value from these. Like literally spot on answers.

But please, remember. Do not believe everything that is said, use all these methods combined, and when you think "Hang on, I've learnt a lot about this and this doesn't seem right for x reason" Go and post the question on the AMA thread on why you think that's wrong. And see if the OP can change your mind with their experience.


4. Test, Test, Test

So, you've found OP on an AMA thread has said "this works" but you can't find any data or case studies to back it up.

Your sat there thinking "This makes no sense, why would it work?"

Well guess what, sometimes it doesn't make sense, and it does work. That is google algorithm for you. It has flaws.

So get off your ass, and test that exact technique/strategy, see what it does for your rankings.

After you implemented it, did your rankings go down after a few weeks? If so, then remove that implementation and your rankings will go back up. But remember, give it at least 4 weeks before removing, and try not to make changes in the meantime that could break your testing.

You could make test websites, and if you want to know how, Kyle roof has some good content on YouTube about how to do that.

But personally for me, I like my main websites to test on, so when I find something new to test, I implement it, and work on my other websites whilst that test is ongoing. This stops me from making multiple changes that could interfere with the test.

Why do I do this on my main websites? Because I want to know what works for my websites. Websites are made up of multiple SEO tactics, and I believe I get a lot more insights testing on websites I've built with my tactics, because then I know exactly what other tactics synchronise well with my current tactics.

Just like a human, every website is different, and the google algorithm is dynamic. Some people disagree with this method of doing it, but I find it the best for me personally. As long as you have some logic behind your madness, try it, test it.





Hope this helps in some way or another.
SEO is actually about a school a thought. There are many routes which can be taken to reach a common destination which is first ranking. You mentioned it rightly that donot just follow someone's mindset. That takes away all freedom and reality. And as SEO is all intricate now, it can be achieved by just copying in some ones footprint
 
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