Good post smitty,

Although I don't waste my time with Alibaba you mentioned a lot of good points.

- I have direct with manufactures in China for many electronics ... things like bluetooth devices, memoryy cards etc ... anything that is small an lightweight is great.

Plus you can't go wrong with these items ... cause there is always a need. Not too mention ALLLLLLL of the ipod and iphone accessories. Believe it!

The payments are right on ... if you can ..use Escrow .. if people don't want to - they are being shady. Every overseas vendor on Alibaba want's wire transfers. Bullshit.

This guy wanted me to wire $4k for a Brand New Yahama YZF-R6...... Not a chance.

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The biggest sales right now too are all the Iphone knock-offs. You want to see a good deal .... look on ebay. For every Iphone knock-off auction that you see shipping from Honk Kong - KNOW THIS.....

Here's the catch - they list the auction with 100 pcs. available - they do not OWN ANY!!!

The manufacture will only sell wholesale in bulk - smallest quantity being around 100 pcs.
These guys list the auction at $200 - when a legit iphone is $399 (8gb) - $599 (16gb)

anyway ... since these sell fast - they bank on the demand. They do not ship 1 unit until they have sold enough to get the wholesale price for 100 units.

The wholesale price from the manufacture is around $89/ per unit.

Quick way to make $10k .

My friend bought ... and was waiting ...and waiting .... and waiting.

after two weeks after he paid - he gave the seller an ultimatum, REFUND ME IMMEDIATELY OR ELSE... (the short version). The guy refunded him immediately without even replying to the email.

Within the next week the guy emailed him back and told him he now had them in stock. That's when we figured out exactly what they were doing.

Anyway, use the info as you will.